Changes made in Rail Europe

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  • November 16, 2018 20:53
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of Luggage limitations on TGV? Storage available for luggage near the airport? by Jeff to Hi Shah,<br /><br />Trains (including <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/tgv-7537" rel="nofollow">TGV</a> trains) provide sufficient space to store luggage. There is space between seats or in the overhead racks. In many cases, there is also space at the ends of each train car. A typical amount of luggage per person is 2 large items, plus one smaller item. Regarding luggage, the general rule is that you can take on board as many items as you can carry. Luggage is the responsibility of the passengers.<br /><br />The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/place/paris-charles-de-gaulle-airport-5748" rel="nofollow">Paris CDG Airport</a> itself does have a left luggage service located in Terminal 2 near the train platforms. I'm sorry, however, we do not have information about costs for storing luggage. The service is listed as being available 7 days a week from 6am to 9:30pm..
  • November 16, 2018 19:39
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of Do the bonuses for boats use up a day of travel on my Eurail Global Pass? by Jeff to For <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-global-pass-5880" rel="nofollow">Eurail Global Pass</a> options, you would click here: <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-global-pass-5880" rel="nofollow">https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-global-pass-5880</a>.
  • November 16, 2018 19:39
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of Do the bonuses for boats use up a day of travel on my Eurail Global Pass? by Jeff to Hi Catherine,<br /><br />'Travel days' are not applicable to the 'consecutive' (continuous) passes, since these passes are for unlimited travel within the time frame allowed. There is no 10 day consecutive/continuous option of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-global-pass-5880" rel="nofollow">Eurail Global Pass</a>, but there is a 15 day consecutive/continuous option.<br /><br />'Travel days' only apply to flexi passes.<br /><br />With regard to the flexi versions of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-global-pass-5880" rel="nofollow">Eurail Global Pass</a>:<br /><br />For any bonus that's free, it would use up a 'travel day' on the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-global-pass-5880" rel="nofollow">Eurail Global Pass</a>.<br /><br />If it's a discounted bonus, it generally would use up a 'travel day' on the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-global-pass-5880" rel="nofollow">Eurail Global Pass</a>.<br /><br />The only boats free with a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-global-pass-5880" rel="nofollow">Eurail Global Pass</a> are the BLS boat services on Lake Brienz and Lake Thun. Therefore, to use your <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-global-pass-5880" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-global-pass-5880">Eurail Global Pass</a> on these boats would require the use of a travel day.<br /><br />All other boats, including boats on Lake Lucerne and Lake Geneva, are 50% off with a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-global-pass-5880" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-global-pass-5880">Eurail Global Pass</a>. Since such boats are not completely covered by the pass, a travel day would not be used up.<br /><br />The 'KD German Rhine Line' cruises on the Rhine are discounted 20% with a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-global-pass-5880" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-global-pass-5880">Eurail Global Pass</a>. Therefore, this would not require the use of a travel day..
  • November 16, 2018 19:35
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of On the Glacier Express, do I have to pay extra with my Eurail Pass or just reservation fees? by Jeff to Hi Catherine,<br /><br />Eurail Passes now cover the full route of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528">Glacier Express</a>, so there is no longer an additional supplement required other than the reservations. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow">Glacier Express</a> is a train that requires reservations as a supplement to a rail pass. Generally, passholder reservations are able to be purchased on our website; however, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow">Glacier Express</a> is not able to be reserved there at this time. Currently, if you'd like to book passholder reservations for the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow">Glacier Express</a>, you would have to send an email to <a href="mailto:customercare@raileurope.com" rel="nofollow">customercare@raileurope.com</a>..
  • November 16, 2018 19:31
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of Flexibility of Eurail Pass vs Swiss Pass by Jeff to Hi Hans,<br /><br />Your best option really depends on the specifics of what you intend to do. However, since your itinerary includes <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/germany" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/germany">Germany</a>, you probably will want to include <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/germany" rel="nofollow">Germany</a> on your rail pass as well. That would mean purchasing the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-select-pass-2-countries-8039" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/eurail-select-pass-2-countries-8039">2 country option of the Eurail Select Pass</a> to include <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland" rel="nofollow">Switzerland</a> and <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/germany" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/germany">Germany</a>. Any pass that includes <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/germany" rel="nofollow">Germany</a> also covers travel to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/salzburg" rel="nofollow">Salzburg</a> via the rail line from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/munich" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/munich">Munich</a>.<br /><br />For the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-select-pass-2-countries-8039" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/eurail-select-pass-2-countries-8039">2 country Eurail Select Pass</a>, you would click here: <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-select-pass-2-countries-8039" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/eurail-select-pass-2-countries-8039">https://www.raileurope.com/pass/eurail-select-pass-2-countries-8039</a>.<br /><br />Multi-country 'Eurail' Passes that include <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland">Switzerland</a> will still provide for discounts on the various mountain railways in and around <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow">Interlaken</a> and <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a>, which I'll outline below..
  • November 16, 2018 19:28
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of Travel from Basel to Zermatt using Eurail Global Pass by Jeff to Hi Graf,<br /><br />Yes, the trains from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow">Zermatt</a> to Visp and Visp to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/basel" rel="nofollow">Basel</a> are covered by any rail pass that includes <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland" rel="nofollow">Switzerland</a>. Trains from Zermatt to Visp do not accept reservations, so the Eurail Select Pass is all you would need board. Reservations are not necessary on the trains from Visp to Basel, so the Eurail Select Pass would once again be all you'll need to board.<br /><br />For planning purposes, you can use the route search feature under 'Book Train Tickets' on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" title="Link: http://www.raileurope.com">www.raileurope.com</a>) just to view schedules for these trains..
  • November 16, 2018 19:21
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of Seville to Faro? Can I travel by train from Spain to southern Portugal? by Jeff to Hi Susan,<br /><br />The bus ride from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/seville" rel="nofollow">Seville</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/faro" rel="nofollow">Faro</a> only takes about 2.5 to 3 hours. These buses are actually very comfortable. It would be like a tour bus, nicer than Greyhound. The service is operated by 'DAMAS' and tickets would have to be purchased prior to boarding..
  • November 16, 2018 19:20
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of Seville to Faro? Can I travel by train from Spain to southern Portugal? by Jeff to Hi Susan,<br /><br />Strangely, there are only a few routes between <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/spain" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Spain</a> and <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/portugal" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/destinations/country-guides/article/portugal">Portugal</a> and none in the southern parts of these countries. To travel from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/spain" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/destinations/country-guides/article/spain">Spain</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/portugal" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/destinations/country-guides/article/portugal">Portugal</a> in the south, you would actually take a bus that goes from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/seville" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Seville</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/faro" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Faro</a>. Incidentally,this bus service continues on to Albufeira, Portimão, and then Lagos. Tickets for the bus would be purchased locally upon arrival.<br /><br />The only reservable trains between <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/spain" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Spain</a> and <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/portugal" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Portugal</a> are the Lusitania night train connecting <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/madrid" rel="nofollow">Madrid</a> with <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lisbon" rel="nofollow">Lisbon</a> and the night train that connects <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/san-sebastian" rel="nofollow">San Sebastian</a>/Irun with <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lisbon" rel="nofollow">Lisbon</a>/Coimbra..
  • November 16, 2018 19:15
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of Seville to Faro? Can I travel by train from Spain to southern Portugal? by Jeff to Hi Susan,<br /><br />Strangely, there are only a few routes between <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/spain" rel="nofollow">Spain</a> and <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/portugal" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/portugal">Portugal</a> and none in the southern parts of these countries. To travel from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/spain" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/spain">Spain</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/portugal" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/portugal">Portugal</a> in the south, you would actually take a bus that goes from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/seville" rel="nofollow">Seville</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/faro" rel="nofollow">Faro</a>. Incidentally,this bus service continues on to Albufeira, Portimão, and then Lagos. Tickets for the bus would be purchased locally upon arrival.<br /><br />The only reservable trains between <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/spain" rel="nofollow">Spain</a> and <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/portugal" rel="nofollow">Portugal</a> are the Lusitania night train connecting Madrid with Lisbon and the night train that connects San Sebastian/Irun with Lisbon/Coimbra..
  • November 16, 2018 19:09
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of not allowing booking RENFE Train when less than 90 days left for travel start date by Jeff to For time spent in <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/barcelona" rel="nofollow">Barcelona</a>, you can shop various city passes and tours offered by clicking here: <a href="http://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/activities/?countries=undefined&amp;cities=cities-562" rel="nofollow" title="Link: http://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/activities/?countries=undefined&amp;cities=cities-562">http://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/activities/?countries=undefined&amp;cities=cities-562</a>.<br /><br />For time in <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/seville" rel="nofollow">Seville</a>, you can shop city passes and tours here: <a href="http://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/activities/?countries=undefined&amp;cities=cities-556" rel="nofollow" title="Link: http://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/activities/?countries=undefined&amp;cities=cities-556">http://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/activities/?countries=undefined&amp;cities=cities-556</a>.<br /><br />City passes and tours for <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/madrid" rel="nofollow">Madrid</a> can be found here: <a href="http://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/activities/?countries=undefined&amp;cities=cities-566" rel="nofollow">http://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/activities/?countries=undefined&amp;cities=cities-566</a>,.
  • November 16, 2018 19:08
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of not allowing booking RENFE Train when less than 90 days left for travel start date by Jeff to Hi Deepika,<br /><br />Generally, trains in <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/spain" rel="nofollow">Spain</a> can be booked within 90 days of an intended departure; However, December is the time of year when the annual 'Winter Schedule Changes' occur with some of the rail networks and train operators in Europe. As a result of the 'Winter Schedule Changes', many trains operating after December 9th have not yet been posted in the international booking system, including the trains from Barcelona to Seville and <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/seville-madrid" rel="nofollow">Seville to Madrid</a>.<br /><br />We expect schedules for departures after December 9th to be released some time within the next few weeks. For right now, you can just use a date between now and December 9th to get an idea of the schedules and ticket costs in the meantime. Come late-October/early-November, you should be able to book these tickets for the actual dates you need..
  • November 08, 2018 19:52
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of 'Eurail Select Pass 2 countries' vs. 'Swiss Travel Pass'... decisions, decisions! by Jeff to Hi Eric,<br /><br />Ost is "east", so you can just think of that as the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/place/interlaken-ost" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/place/interlaken-ost">Interlaken East station</a>. But I would advise not to get too hung up on the station.<br /><br />Trains from Interlaken to Spiez do stop at both stations and they are only 3 minutes apart. The direct trains between Interlaken and Zweisimmen (<a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow">GoldenPass</a>) also stop at both stations.<br /><br />Trains between Interlaken and Lucerne (<a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow">GoldenPass</a>) do not stop at the West station, but <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow">Interlaken</a> is small and it's very easy to get from one station to the other. Buses depart regularly throughout the day and the ride from West to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/place/interlaken-ost" rel="nofollow">East (Ost)</a> only takes about 7-8 minutes. Local trains only take about 5 minutes to get from West to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/place/interlaken-ost" rel="nofollow">East (Ost)</a>..
  • November 08, 2018 19:47
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of The Swiss travel Pass, shouldn't (no reservation) "inter-Swiss' train travel be free? by Jeff to Hi Eric,<br /><br />In my previous response, I advised that you can disregard that error message. However, the routes you're asking about here are not the same routes you asked about previously. Rest assured, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow">Swiss Travel Pass</a> does cover these trains.<br /><br /><b><u>Zurich to St Moritz</u></b><br /><br />Connections from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zurich" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/zurich">Zurich</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/st-moritz" rel="nofollow">St Moritz</a> take 3 to 3.5 hours in duration and involve changing trains once in either <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/chur" rel="nofollow">Chur</a> or Landquart along the way.<br /><br />On trains from Zurich to Chur and Zurich to Landquart, reservations may be possible, but they are not necessary at all. Therefore, a rail pass is all you'd need to board.<br /><br />Trains from Chur to St Moritz and Landquart to St Moritz do not accept reservations, so a rail pass is all you'd need to board. Trains from Chur to St Moritz run along one portion of the longer <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow">Glacier Express</a> scenic route. For just this one small segment of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528">Glacier Express</a> route, reservations are not necessary.<br /><br />For planning purposes, you can still use the route search feature under 'Book Train Tickets' on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom">www.raileurope.com</a>) just to view schedules for these trains. For a trip from Zurich to St Moritz, you would just have to break up your search in either <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/chur" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/chur">Chur</a> or Landquart (i.e. one search from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/zurich-chur" rel="nofollow">Zurich to Chur</a> and another search for connecting trains from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/chur-st-moritz" rel="nofollow">Chur to St Moritz</a>).<br /><br />When you're just trying to access schedules for non-reservable trains, you can leave the 'I have a rail pass' button unchecked (even if the truth is that you will be traveling with a rail pass) to avoid seeing the “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass” message. Otherwise, if you do click the 'I have a rail pass' button, the “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass” message will display in error. In any case, you can just disregard that error message, because any rail pass that includes <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland" rel="nofollow">Switzerland</a> is valid on these trains.<br /><br />Also by leaving the 'I have a rail pass' button unchecked, our search engine might display more departures/options. With the rail pass, you can rest assured that you're free to take all the trains that display.<br /><br /><b><u>Zermatt to Zurich</u></b><br /><br />Connections from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow">Zermatt</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zurich" rel="nofollow">Zurich</a> take just under 3.5 hours in duration and involve changing trains once in Visp along the way.<br /><br />On trains from Zermatt to Visp and Visp to Zurich, reservations are not necessary at all, so a rail pass is all you would need to board.<br /><br />Once again, you can still use the route search feature under 'Book Train Tickets' on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: http://www.raileurope.com">www.raileurope.com</a>) just to view schedules for these trains. Again, you would just break up the route by segment, so you would do one search from Zermatt to Visp and then another search for connecting trains from Visp to Zurich. I would still recommend leaving the 'I have a rail pass' button unchecked just so you avoid seeing the fallacious “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass” error message.<br /><br />Rest assured, any rail pass that includes <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland">Switzerland</a> is valid on these trains.<br /><br /><b><u>Scenic Trains (GoldenPass, Glacier Express, Bernina Express, Gotthard Panorama Express)</u></b><br /><br />Concerning the actual scenic train routes, you can refer to your previous post here: <a href="http://community.raileurope.com/raileurope/topics/eurail-select-pass-2-countries-vs-swiss-travel-pass-decisions-decisions" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: http://community.raileurope.com/raileurope/topics/eurail-select-pass-2-countries-vs-swiss-travel-pass-decisions-decisions">http://community.raileurope.com/raileurope/topics/eurail-select-pass-2-countries-vs-swiss-travel-pas...</a>..
  • November 08, 2018 19:39
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of The Swiss travel Pass, shouldn't (no reservation) "inter-Swiss' train travel be free? by Jeff to Hi Eric,<br /><br />In my previous response, I advised that you can disregard that error message. However, the routes you're asking about here are not the same routes you asked about previously. Rest assured, the Swiss Travel Pass does cover these trains.<br /><br /><b><u>Zurich to St Moritz</u></b><br /><br />Connections from Zurich to St Moritz take 3 to 3.5 hours in duration and involve changing trains once in either Chur or Landquart along the way.<br /><br />On trains from Zurich to Chur and Zurich to Landquart, reservations may be possible, but they are not necessary at all. Therefore, a rail pass is all you'd need to board.<br /><br />Trains from Chur to St Moritz and Landquart to St Moritz do not accept reservations, so a rail pass is all you'd need to board. Trains from Chur to St Moritz run along one portion of the longer Glacier Express scenic route. For just this one small segment of the Glacier Express route, reservations are not necessary.<br /><br />For planning purposes, you can still use the route search feature under 'Book Train Tickets' on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: http://www.raileurope.com">www.raileurope.com</a>) just to view schedules for these trains. For a trip from Zurich to St Moritz, you would just have to break up your search in either Chur or Landquart (i.e. one search from Zurich to Chur and another search for connecting trains from Chur to St Moritz).<br /><br />When you're just trying to access schedules for non-reservable trains, you can leave the 'I have a rail pass' button unchecked (even if the truth is that you will be traveling with a rail pass) to avoid seeing the “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass” message. Otherwise, if you do click the 'I have a rail pass' button, the “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass” message will display in error. In any case, you can just disregard that error message, because any rail pass that includes Switzerland is valid on these trains.<br /><br />Also by leaving the 'I have a rail pass' button unchecked, our search engine might display more departures/options. With the rail pass, you can rest assured that you're free to take all the trains that display.<br /><br /><b><u>Zermatt to Zurich</u></b><br /><br />Connections from Zermatt to Zurich take just under 3.5 hours in duration and involve changing trains once in Visp along the way.<br /><br />On trains from Zermatt to Visp and Visp to Zurich, reservations are not necessary at all, so a rail pass is all you would need to board.<br /><br />Once again, you can still use the route search feature under 'Book Train Tickets' on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.raileurope.com</a>) just to view schedules for these trains. Again, you would just break up the route by segment, so you would do one search from Zermatt to Visp and then another search for connecting trains from Visp to Zurich. I would still recommend leaving the 'I have a rail pass' button unchecked just so you avoid seeing the fallacious “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass” error message.<br /><br />Rest assured, any rail pass that includes Switzerland is valid on these trains.<br /><br /><b><u>Scenic Trains (GoldenPass, Glacier Express, Bernina Express, Gotthard Panorama Express)</u></b><br /><br />Concerning the actual scenic train routes, you can refer to your previous post here: <a href="http://community.raileurope.com/raileurope/topics/eurail-select-pass-2-countries-vs-swiss-travel-pass-decisions-decisions" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://community.raileurope.com/raileurope/topics/eurail-select-pass-2-countries-vs-swiss-travel-pas...</a>..
  • November 08, 2018 15:56
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of The Swiss travel Pass, shouldn't (no reservation) "inter-Swiss' train travel be free? by Jeff to Hi Eric,<br /><br />In my previous response, I advised that you can disregard that error message. However, the routes you're asking about here are not routes you asked about previously. Rest assured, the Swiss Travel Pass does cover these trains.<br /><br /><b><u>Zurich to St Moritz</u></b><br /><br />Connections from Zurich to St Moritz take 3 to 3.5 hours in duration and involve changing trains once in either Chur or Landquart along the way.<br /><br />On trains from Zurich to Chur and Zurich to Landquart, reservations may be possible, but they are not necessary at all. Therefore, a rail pass is all you'd need to board.<br /><br />Trains from Chur to St Moritz and Landquart to St Moritz do not accept reservations, so a rail pass is all you'd need to board. Trains from Chur to St Moritz run along one portion of the longer Glacier Express scenic route. For just this one small segment of the Glacier Express route, reservations are not necessary.<br /><br />For planning purposes, you can still use the route search feature under 'Book Train Tickets' on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow">www.raileurope.com</a>) just to view schedules for these trains. For a trip from Zurich to St Moritz, you would just have to break up your search in either Chur or Landquart (i.e. one search from Zurich to Chur and another search for connecting trains from Chur to St Moritz).<br /><br />When you're just trying to access schedules for non-reservable trains, you can leave the 'I have a rail pass' button unchecked (even if the truth is that you will be traveling with a rail pass) to avoid seeing the “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass” message. Otherwise, if you do click the 'I have a rail pass' button, the “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass” message will display in error. In any case, you can just disregard that error message, because any rail pass that includes Switzerland is valid on these trains.<br /><br />Also by leaving the 'I have a rail pass' button unchecked, our search engine might display more trains/schedules. With the rail pass, you can rest assured that you're free to take all the trains that display.<br /><br /><b><u>Zermatt to Zurich</u></b><br /><br />Connections from Zermatt to Zurich take just under 3.5 hours in duration and involve changing trains once in Visp along the way.<br /><br />On trains from Zermatt to Visp and Visp to Zurich, reservations are not necessary at all, so a rail pass is all you would need to board.<br /><br />Once again, you can still use the route search feature under 'Book Train Tickets' on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow">www.raileurope.com</a>) just to view schedules for these trains. Again, you would just break up the route by segment, so you would do one search from Zermatt to Visp and then another search for connecting trains from Visp to Zurich. I would still recommend leaving the 'I have a rail pass' button unchecked just so you avoid seeing the fallacious “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass” error message.<br /><br />Rest assured, any rail pass that includes Switzerland is valid on these trains.<br /><br /><b><u>Scenic Trains (GoldenPass, Glacier Express, Bernina Express, Gotthard Panorama Express)</u></b><br /><br />Concerning the actual scenic train routes, you can refer to your previous post here: <a href="http://community.raileurope.com/raileurope/topics/eurail-select-pass-2-countries-vs-swiss-travel-pass-decisions-decisions" rel="nofollow">http://community.raileurope.com/raileurope/topics/eurail-select-pass-2-countries-vs-swiss-travel-pas...</a>..
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  • November 06, 2018 22:51
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of 'Eurail Select Pass 2 countries' vs. 'Swiss Travel Pass'... decisions, decisions! by Jeff to Hi Eric,<br /><br />A multi-country Eurail Pass and the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> would both be valid to cover the ticket costs on all of the scenic trains you listed, as well as connections from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Interlaken</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Zermatt</a>. Whenever reservations are required, they are an additional cost to a rail pass.<br /><br />While the main objective of a rail pass generally is to cover trains running ‘inter-city’ between different cities, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is unique in that it covers more than just rail travel. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is unique from other rail passes in that it also covers boats, city buses, and city transit networks in <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Switzerland</a>. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> will also provide for the best possible discounts on mountain railways (including cable cars and funiculars) and allows for entry to over 490 museums around <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland">Switzerland</a>.<br /><br />Multi-country Eurail Passes (that include Switzerland) will also will provide for discounts on many mountain railways, but the discounts are generally not as much as they would be with the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Swiss Travel Pass</a>. For instance, in cases where a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Swiss Travel Pass</a> might provide for a 50% discount, the Eurail Pass discount would only be 25%.<br /><br />For info about bonuses with the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a>, you would refer to the page for the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Swiss Travel Pass</a> on our website, scroll down slightly, and click 'Rail pass benefits'. The page for the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is here: <a href="http://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">http://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934</a>.<br /><br />For info about bonuses with the 2 country Eurail Select Pass, you would refer to the page for this pass on our website and do the same. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354">2 country Eurail Select Pass for Italy and Switzerland</a> is here: <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354">https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354</a><br /><br /><b><u>Interlaken to Zermatt</u></b><br /><br />Connections from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Interlaken</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Zermatt</a> take just over 2 hours in duration and involve 2 train changes along the way; once in Spiez and then in Visp. Reservations are not at all necessary on these trains, so a rail pass is all you would need to board, whether it be a Eurail Pass or a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a>.<br /><br />For planning purposes, you can still use the route search feature under 'Book Train Tickets' on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom">www.raileurope.com</a>) just to view schedules for these trains. For a trip from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Interlaken</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Zermatt</a>, you would just have to break up your search in either Spiez or Visp (i.e. one search for trains from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/interlaken-spiez" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/interlaken-spiez">Interlaken to Spiez</a> and then another search for the part of the connection from Spiez to Zermatt). Otherwise, you can just piece together your search segment-by-segment (i.e. one search from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/interlaken-spiez" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/interlaken-spiez">Interlaken to Spiez</a>, another search for connecting trains from Spiez to Visp, and then another search for connecting trains from Visp to Zermatt).<br /><br />If, following any of your searches for this route, you see a message that says “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass”, just disregard it. That message is in no way accurate. Rest assured, you can use either of these rail passes on all of these trains.<br /><br />The segment from Visp to Zermatt does run along a portion of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528">Glacier Express</a> scenic route. For just this one small segment of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/train/glacier-express-7528">Glacier Express</a> route, reservations are not necessary.<br /><br /><b><u>GoldenPass</u></b><br /><br />The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">GoldenPass scenic route</a> runs from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/montreux" rel="nofollow">Montreux</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lucerne</a> and involves changing trains in Zweisimmen and <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken">Interlaken</a> along the way.<br /><br />Of the trains comprising of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/train/goldenpass-line-7546">GoldenPass</a> route, reservations are only recommended on the segment between <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/montreux" rel="nofollow">Montreux</a> and Zweisimmen. For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations on a train from Montreux to Zweisimmen by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’).<br /><br />On the other segments of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">GoldenPass</a> route (Zweisimmen to Interlaken and <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/interlaken-lucerne-5759" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/interlaken-lucerne-5759">Interlaken to Lucerne</a>), reservations are possible but not necessary. If you also would like to have reservations for these segments, you would just have to piece together the connection by doing a separate search for each segment. Therefore, you would do one search for trains from Montreux to Zweisimmen, another search for connecting trains from Zweisimmen to Interlaken, and then another search for connecting trains from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/interlaken-lucerne-5759" rel="nofollow">Interlaken to Lucerne</a>. When you pull up the results of a Zweisimmen-Interlaken search, just be sure to look for the direct trains. Generally, <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/train/goldenpass-line-7546">GoldenPass</a> trains can be reserved once within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Glacier Express</u></b><br /><br />The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Glacier Express</a> is closed for maintenance every year during this time, but it will begin running again in mid-December. This scenic train runs from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow">Zermatt</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/st-moritz" rel="nofollow">St Moritz</a> and requires reservations. For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations for the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528">Glacier Express</a> from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/zermatt-st-moritz" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/zermatt-st-moritz">Zermatt to St Moritz</a> by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’). Generally, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Glacier Express</a> can be reserved once within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Bernina Express</u></b><br /><br />The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> scenic train runs from either <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/st-moritz" rel="nofollow">St Moritz</a> or Chur to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/tirano" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/tirano">Tirano</a> in <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/italy" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/italy">Italy</a>. The bus segment of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> is from Tirano to Lugano, but it only runs from April to October each year. Even though <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/tirano" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/tirano">Tirano</a> is in <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/italy" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/italy">Italy</a>, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is valid to cover the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> trains and the bus. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> trains (St Moritz/Chur-Tirano) and the bus (Tirano-Lugano) both do require reservations as a supplement to a rail pass. Please be advised that the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> would not be valid on other connections from Tirano to Lugano that go through <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/italy" rel="nofollow">Italy</a>; only the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> bus.<br /><br />For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’). For anyone doing the train and the bus, the search would need to be pieced together segment-by-segment (i.e. one search from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/st-moritz-tirano" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/st-moritz-tirano">St Moritz to Tirano</a> and then another search from Tirano to Lugano). Generally, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bernina Express</a> can only be reserved within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Gotthard Panorama Express route</u></b><br /><br />From mid-October to mid-April, the direct Gotthard Panorama Express trains actually do not run. Even though the actual Gotthard Panorama Express will not be operating in December, you can still travel from Lugano up to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne">Lucerne</a> following the same route; the trains would just not have panoramic windows and a connection in Erstfeld would be involved. The trip involves taking a train from Lugano to Erstfeld and then another train from Erstfeld to either Flüelen or straight to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lucerne</a>. If you take the train to Flüelen, you can continue on to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lucerne</a> by taking the SGV steamboat over Lake Lucerne.<br /><br />When the direct Gotthard Panorama Express runs, it requires reservations; however, the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld and Erstfeld to Flüelen/Lucerne do not even accept reservations. Therefore, a Eurail Pass or a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> would be all you’d need to board.<br /><br />Schedules for the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld and Erstfeld to Flüelen or <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/city/lucerne">Lucerne</a> are not able to be viewed on our website. For your reference, the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld depart every 2 hours throughout the day, and the ride takes about 2 hours. Trains from Erstfeld to Flüelen depart every half-hour throughout the day and the ride only takes 7 or 8 minutes. Trains from Erstfeld to Lucerne depart every 2 hours throughout the day, and the ride takes just over 1 hour.<br /><br />With a Eurail Pass, you would be able to receive 50% off a ticket on the SGV steamboat from Flüelen to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lucerne</a>. With a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a>, you would be completely covered to take the SGV steamboat from Flüelen to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne">Lucerne</a>. The boat ride from Flüelen to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lucerne</a> takes about 2.5 hours..
  • November 06, 2018 21:06
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of 'Eurail Select Pass 2 countries' vs. 'Swiss Travel Pass'... decisions, decisions! by Jeff to Hi Eric,<br /><br />A multi-country Eurail Pass and the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> would both be valid to cover the ticket costs on all of the scenic trains you listed, as well as connections from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow">Interlaken</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow">Zermatt</a>. Whenever reservations are required, they are an additional cost to a rail pass.<br /><br />While the main objective of a rail pass generally is to cover trains running ‘inter-city’ between different cities, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is unique in that it covers more than just rail travel. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is unique from other rail passes in that it also covers boats, city buses, and city transit networks in <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland" rel="nofollow">Switzerland</a>. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> will also provide for the best possible discounts on mountain railways (including cable cars and funiculars) and allows for entry to over 490 museums around <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland">Switzerland</a>.<br /><br />Multi-country Eurail Passes (that include Switzerland) will also will provide for discounts on many mountain railways, but the discounts are generally not as much as they would be with the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow">Swiss Travel Pass</a>. For instance, in cases where a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow">Swiss Travel Pass</a> might provide for a 50% discount, the Eurail Pass discount would only be 25%.<br /><br />For info about bonuses with the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a>, you would refer to the page for the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow">Swiss Travel Pass</a> on our website, scroll down slightly, and click 'Rail pass benefits'. The page for the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is here: <a href="http://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: http://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">http://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934</a>.<br /><br />For info about bonuses with the 2 country Eurail Select Pass, you would refer to the page for this pass on our website and do the same. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354">2 country Eurail Select Pass for Italy and Switzerland</a> is here: <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354">https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354</a><br /><br /><b><u>Interlaken to Zermatt</u></b><br /><br />Connections from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow">Interlaken</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow">Zermatt</a> take just over 2 hours in duration and involve 2 train changes along the way; once in Spiez and then in Visp. Reservations are not at all necessary on these trains, so a rail pass is all you would need to board, whether it be a Eurail Pass or a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow">Swiss Travel Pass</a>.<br /><br />For planning purposes, you can still use the route search feature under 'Book Train Tickets' on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom">www.raileurope.com</a>) just to view schedules for these trains. For a trip from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow">Interlaken</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow">Zermatt</a>, you would just have to break up your search in either Spiez or Visp (i.e. one search for trains from Interlaken to Spiez and then another search for the part of the connection from Spiez to Zermatt). Otherwise, you can just piece together your search segment-by-segment (i.e. one search from Interlaken to Spiez, another search for connecting trains from Spiez to Visp, and then another search for connecting trains from Visp to Zermatt).<br /><br />If, following any of your searches for this route, you see a message that says “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass”, just disregard it. That message is in no way accurate. Rest assured, you can use either of these rail passes on all of these trains.<br /><br />The segment from Visp to Zermatt does run along a portion of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow">Glacier Express</a> scenic route. For just this one small segment of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528">Glacier Express</a> route, reservations are not necessary.<br /><br /><b><u>GoldenPass</u></b><br /><br />The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow">GoldenPass scenic route</a> runs from Montreux to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a> and involves changing trains in Zweisimmen and <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow">Interlaken</a> along the way.<br /><br />Of the trains comprising of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546">GoldenPass</a> route, reservations are only recommended on the segment between Montreux and Zweisimmen. For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations on a train from Montreux to Zweisimmen by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’).<br /><br />On the other segments of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow">GoldenPass</a> route (Zweisimmen to Interlaken and Interlaken to Lucerne), reservations are possible but not necessary. If you also would like to have reservations for these segments, you would just have to piece together the connection by doing a separate search for each segment. Therefore, you would do one search for trains from Montreux to Zweisimmen, another search for connecting trains from Zweisimmen to Interlaken, and then another search for connecting trains from Interlaken to Lucerne. When you pull up the results of a Zweisimmen-Interlaken search, just be sure to look for the direct trains. Generally, <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546">GoldenPass</a> trains can be reserved once within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Glacier Express</u></b><br /><br />The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow">Glacier Express</a> is closed for maintenance every year during this time, but it will begin running again in mid-December. This scenic train runs from Zermatt to St Moritz and requires reservations. For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations for the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow">Glacier Express</a> from Zermatt to St Moritz by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’). Generally, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow">Glacier Express</a> can be reserved once within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Bernina Express</u></b><br /><br />The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> scenic train runs from either St Moritz or Chur to Tirano in Italy. The bus segment of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> is from Tirano to Lugano, but it only runs from April to October each year. Even though Tirano is in Italy, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is valid to cover the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> trains and the bus. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> trains (St Moritz/Chur-Tirano) and the bus (Tirano-Lugano) both do require reservations as a supplement to a rail pass. Please be advised that the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> would not be valid on other connections from Tirano to Lugano that go through Italy; only the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow">Bernina Express</a> bus.<br /><br />For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’). For anyone doing the train and the bus, the search would need to be pieced together segment-by-segment (i.e. one search from St Moritz to Tirano and then another search from Tirano to Lugano). Generally, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow">Bernina Express</a> can only be reserved within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Gotthard Panorama Express route</u></b><br /><br />From mid-October to mid-April, the direct Gotthard Panorama Express trains actually do not run. Even though the actual Gotthard Panorama Express will not be operating in December, you can still travel from Lugano up to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a> following the same route; the trains would just not have panoramic windows and a connection in Erstfeld would be involved. The trip involves taking a train from Lugano to Erstfeld and then another train from Erstfeld to either Flüelen or straight to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a>. If you take the train to Flüelen, you can continue on to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a> by taking the SGV steamboat over Lake Lucerne.<br /><br />When the direct Gotthard Panorama Express runs, it requires reservations; however, the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld and Erstfeld to Flüelen/Lucerne do not even accept reservations. Therefore, a Eurail Pass or a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> would be all you’d need to board.<br /><br />Schedules for the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld and Erstfeld to Flüelen or <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne">Lucerne</a> are not able to be viewed on our website. For your reference, the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld depart every 2 hours throughout the day, and the ride takes about 2 hours. Trains from Erstfeld to Flüelen depart every half-hour throughout the day and the ride only takes 7 or 8 minutes. Trains from Erstfeld to Lucerne depart every 2 hours throughout the day, and the ride takes just over 1 hour.<br /><br />With a Eurail Pass, you would be able to receive 50% off a ticket on the SGV steamboat from Flüelen to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a>. With a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a>, you would be completely covered to take the SGV steamboat from Flüelen to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a>. The boat ride from Flüelen to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a> takes about 2.5 hours..
  • November 06, 2018 19:37
    Jeff
    Changed reply in topic of 'Eurail Select Pass 2 countries' vs. 'Swiss Travel Pass'... decisions, decisions! by Jeff to Hi Eric,<br /><br />A multi-country Eurail Pass and the Swiss Travel Pass would both be valid to cover the ticket costs on all of the scenic trains you listed, as well as connections from Interlaken to Zermatt. Whenever reservations are required, they are an additional cost to a rail pass.<br /><br />While the main objective of a rail pass generally is to cover trains running ‘inter-city’ between different cities, the Swiss Travel Pass is unique in that it covers more than just rail travel. The Swiss Travel Pass is unique from other rail passes in that it also covers boats, city buses, and city transit networks in Switzerland. The Swiss Travel Pass will also provide for the best possible discounts on mountain railways (including cable cars and funiculars) and allows for entry to over 490 museums around Switzerland.<br /><br />Multi-country Eurail Passes (that include Switzerland) will also will provide for discounts on many mountain railways, but the discounts are generally not as much as they would be with the Swiss Travel Pass. For instance, in cases where a Swiss Travel Pass might provide for a 50% discount, the Eurail Pass discount would only be 25%.<br /><br />For info about bonuses with the Swiss Travel Pass, you would refer to the page for the Swiss Travel Pass on our website, scroll down slightly, and click 'Rail pass benefits'. The page for the Swiss Travel Pass is here: <a href="http://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow">http://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934</a>.<br /><br />For info about bonuses with the 2 country Eurail Select Pass, you would refer to the page for this pass on our website and do the same. The 2 country Eurail Select Pass for Italy and Switzerland is here: <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354" rel="nofollow">https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354</a><br /><br /><b><u>Interlaken to Zermatt</u></b><br /><br />Connections from Interlaken to Zermatt take just over 2 hours in duration and involve 2 train changes along the way; once in Spiez and then in Visp. Reservations are not at all necessary on these trains, so a rail pass is all you would need to board, whether it be a Eurail Pass or a Swiss Travel Pass.<br /><br />For planning purposes, you can still use the route search feature under 'Book Train Tickets' on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" title="Link: http://www.raileurope.com">www.raileurope.com</a>) just to view schedules for these trains. For a trip from Interlaken to Zermatt, you would just have to break up your search in either Spiez or Visp (i.e. one search for trains from Interlaken to Spiez and then another search for the part of the connection from Spiez to Zermatt). Otherwise, you can just piece together your search segment-by-segment (i.e. one search from Interlaken to Spiez, another search for connecting trains from Spiez to Visp, and then another search for connecting trains from Visp to Zermatt).<br /><br />If, following any of your searches for this route, you see a message that says “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass”, just disregard it. That message is in no way accurate. Rest assured, you can use either of these rail passes on all of these trains.<br /><br />The segment from Visp to Zermatt does run along a portion of the Glacier Express scenic route. For just this one small segment of the Glacier Express route, reservations are not necessary.<br /><br /><b><u>GoldenPass</u></b><br /><br />The GoldenPass scenic route runs from Montreux to Lucerne and involves changing trains in Zweisimmen and Interlaken along the way.<br /><br />Of the trains comprising of the GoldenPass route, reservations are only recommended on the segment between Montreux and Zweisimmen. For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations on a train from Montreux to Zweisimmen by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" title="Link: http://www.raileurope.com">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’).<br /><br />On the other segments of the GoldenPass route (Zweisimmen to Interlaken and Interlaken to Lucerne), reservations are possible but not necessary. If you also would like to have reservations for these segments, you would just have to piece together the connection by doing a separate search for each segment. Therefore, you would do one search for trains from Montreux to Zweisimmen, another search for connecting trains from Zweisimmen to Interlaken, and then another search for connecting trains from Interlaken to Lucerne. When you pull up the results of a Zweisimmen-Interlaken search, just be sure to look for the direct trains. Generally, GoldenPass trains can be reserved once within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Glacier Express</u></b><br /><br />The Glacier Express is closed for maintenance every year during this time, but it will begin running again in mid-December. This scenic train runs from Zermatt to St Moritz and requires reservations. For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations for the Glacier Express from Zermatt to St Moritz by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’). Generally, the Glacier Express can be reserved once within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Bernina Express</u></b><br /><br />The Bernina Express scenic train runs from either St Moritz or Chur to Tirano in Italy. The bus segment of the Bernina Express is from Tirano to Lugano, but it only runs from April to October each year. Even though Tirano is in Italy, the Swiss Travel Pass is valid to cover the Bernina Express trains and the bus. The Bernina Express trains (St Moritz/Chur-Tirano) and the bus (Tirano-Lugano) both do require reservations as a supplement to a rail pass. Please be advised that the Swiss Travel Pass would not be valid on other connections from Tirano to Lugano that go through Italy; only the Bernina Express bus.<br /><br />For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" title="Link: http://www.raileurope.com">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’). For anyone doing the train and the bus, the search would need to be pieced together segment-by-segment (i.e. one search from St Moritz to Tirano and then another search from Tirano to Lugano). Generally, the Bernina Express can only be reserved within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Gotthard Panorama Express route</u></b><br /><br />From mid-October to mid-April, the direct Gotthard Panorama Express trains actually do not run. Even though the actual Gotthard Panorama Express will not be operating in December, you can still travel from Lugano up to Lucerne following the same route; the trains would just not have panoramic windows and a connection in Erstfeld would be involved. The trip involves taking a train from Lugano to Erstfeld and then another train from Erstfeld to either Flüelen or straight to Lucerne. If you take the train to Flüelen, you can continue on to Lucerne by taking the SGV steamboat over Lake Lucerne.<br /><br />When the direct Gotthard Panorama Express runs, it requires reservations; however, the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld and Erstfeld to Flüelen/Lucerne do not even accept reservations. Therefore, a Eurail Pass or a Swiss Travel Pass would be all you’d need to board.<br /><br />Schedules for the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld and Erstfeld to Flüelen or Lucerne are not able to be viewed on our website. For your reference, the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld depart every 2 hours throughout the day, and the ride takes about 2 hours. Trains from Erstfeld to Flüelen depart every half-hour throughout the day and the ride only takes 7 or 8 minutes. Trains from Erstfeld to Lucerne depart every 2 hours throughout the day, and the ride takes just over 1 hour.<br /><br />With a Eurail Pass, you would be able to receive 50% off a ticket on the SGV steamboat from Flüelen to Lucerne. With a Swiss Travel Pass, you would be completely covered to take the SGV steamboat from Flüelen to Lucerne. The boat ride from Flüelen to Lucerne takes about 2.5 hours..
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