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'Eurail Select Pass 2 countries' vs. 'Swiss Travel Pass'... decisions, decisions!

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  • November 08, 2018 19:52
    Jeff
    Change in reply by Jeff to Hi Eric,<br /><br />Ost is "east", so you can just think of that as the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/place/interlaken-ost" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/place/interlaken-ost">Interlaken East station</a>. But I would advise not to get too hung up on the station.<br /><br />Trains from Interlaken to Spiez do stop at both stations and they are only 3 minutes apart. The direct trains between Interlaken and Zweisimmen (<a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow">GoldenPass</a>) also stop at both stations.<br /><br />Trains between Interlaken and Lucerne (<a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow">GoldenPass</a>) do not stop at the West station, but <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow">Interlaken</a> is small and it's very easy to get from one station to the other. Buses depart regularly throughout the day and the ride from West to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/place/interlaken-ost" rel="nofollow">East (Ost)</a> only takes about 7-8 minutes. Local trains only take about 5 minutes to get from West to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/place/interlaken-ost" rel="nofollow">East (Ost)</a>..
  • November 07, 2018 00:43
    Eric Polite, the poster:
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  • November 06, 2018 22:51
    Jeff
    Change in reply by Jeff to Hi Eric,<br /><br />A multi-country Eurail Pass and the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> would both be valid to cover the ticket costs on all of the scenic trains you listed, as well as connections from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Interlaken</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Zermatt</a>. Whenever reservations are required, they are an additional cost to a rail pass.<br /><br />While the main objective of a rail pass generally is to cover trains running ‘inter-city’ between different cities, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is unique in that it covers more than just rail travel. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is unique from other rail passes in that it also covers boats, city buses, and city transit networks in <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Switzerland</a>. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> will also provide for the best possible discounts on mountain railways (including cable cars and funiculars) and allows for entry to over 490 museums around <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland">Switzerland</a>.<br /><br />Multi-country Eurail Passes (that include Switzerland) will also will provide for discounts on many mountain railways, but the discounts are generally not as much as they would be with the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Swiss Travel Pass</a>. For instance, in cases where a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Swiss Travel Pass</a> might provide for a 50% discount, the Eurail Pass discount would only be 25%.<br /><br />For info about bonuses with the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a>, you would refer to the page for the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Swiss Travel Pass</a> on our website, scroll down slightly, and click 'Rail pass benefits'. The page for the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is here: <a href="http://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">http://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934</a>.<br /><br />For info about bonuses with the 2 country Eurail Select Pass, you would refer to the page for this pass on our website and do the same. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354">2 country Eurail Select Pass for Italy and Switzerland</a> is here: <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354">https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354</a><br /><br /><b><u>Interlaken to Zermatt</u></b><br /><br />Connections from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Interlaken</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Zermatt</a> take just over 2 hours in duration and involve 2 train changes along the way; once in Spiez and then in Visp. Reservations are not at all necessary on these trains, so a rail pass is all you would need to board, whether it be a Eurail Pass or a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a>.<br /><br />For planning purposes, you can still use the route search feature under 'Book Train Tickets' on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom">www.raileurope.com</a>) just to view schedules for these trains. For a trip from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Interlaken</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Zermatt</a>, you would just have to break up your search in either Spiez or Visp (i.e. one search for trains from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/interlaken-spiez" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/interlaken-spiez">Interlaken to Spiez</a> and then another search for the part of the connection from Spiez to Zermatt). Otherwise, you can just piece together your search segment-by-segment (i.e. one search from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/interlaken-spiez" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/interlaken-spiez">Interlaken to Spiez</a>, another search for connecting trains from Spiez to Visp, and then another search for connecting trains from Visp to Zermatt).<br /><br />If, following any of your searches for this route, you see a message that says “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass”, just disregard it. That message is in no way accurate. Rest assured, you can use either of these rail passes on all of these trains.<br /><br />The segment from Visp to Zermatt does run along a portion of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528">Glacier Express</a> scenic route. For just this one small segment of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/train/glacier-express-7528">Glacier Express</a> route, reservations are not necessary.<br /><br /><b><u>GoldenPass</u></b><br /><br />The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">GoldenPass scenic route</a> runs from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/montreux" rel="nofollow">Montreux</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lucerne</a> and involves changing trains in Zweisimmen and <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken">Interlaken</a> along the way.<br /><br />Of the trains comprising of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/train/goldenpass-line-7546">GoldenPass</a> route, reservations are only recommended on the segment between <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/montreux" rel="nofollow">Montreux</a> and Zweisimmen. For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations on a train from Montreux to Zweisimmen by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’).<br /><br />On the other segments of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">GoldenPass</a> route (Zweisimmen to Interlaken and <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/interlaken-lucerne-5759" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/interlaken-lucerne-5759">Interlaken to Lucerne</a>), reservations are possible but not necessary. If you also would like to have reservations for these segments, you would just have to piece together the connection by doing a separate search for each segment. Therefore, you would do one search for trains from Montreux to Zweisimmen, another search for connecting trains from Zweisimmen to Interlaken, and then another search for connecting trains from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/interlaken-lucerne-5759" rel="nofollow">Interlaken to Lucerne</a>. When you pull up the results of a Zweisimmen-Interlaken search, just be sure to look for the direct trains. Generally, <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/train/goldenpass-line-7546">GoldenPass</a> trains can be reserved once within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Glacier Express</u></b><br /><br />The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Glacier Express</a> is closed for maintenance every year during this time, but it will begin running again in mid-December. This scenic train runs from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow">Zermatt</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/st-moritz" rel="nofollow">St Moritz</a> and requires reservations. For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations for the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528">Glacier Express</a> from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/zermatt-st-moritz" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/zermatt-st-moritz">Zermatt to St Moritz</a> by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’). Generally, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Glacier Express</a> can be reserved once within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Bernina Express</u></b><br /><br />The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> scenic train runs from either <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/st-moritz" rel="nofollow">St Moritz</a> or Chur to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/tirano" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/tirano">Tirano</a> in <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/italy" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/italy">Italy</a>. The bus segment of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> is from Tirano to Lugano, but it only runs from April to October each year. Even though <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/tirano" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/tirano">Tirano</a> is in <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/italy" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/italy">Italy</a>, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is valid to cover the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> trains and the bus. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> trains (St Moritz/Chur-Tirano) and the bus (Tirano-Lugano) both do require reservations as a supplement to a rail pass. Please be advised that the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> would not be valid on other connections from Tirano to Lugano that go through <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/italy" rel="nofollow">Italy</a>; only the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> bus.<br /><br />For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’). For anyone doing the train and the bus, the search would need to be pieced together segment-by-segment (i.e. one search from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/st-moritz-tirano" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train-tickets/journeys/article/st-moritz-tirano">St Moritz to Tirano</a> and then another search from Tirano to Lugano). Generally, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bernina Express</a> can only be reserved within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Gotthard Panorama Express route</u></b><br /><br />From mid-October to mid-April, the direct Gotthard Panorama Express trains actually do not run. Even though the actual Gotthard Panorama Express will not be operating in December, you can still travel from Lugano up to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne">Lucerne</a> following the same route; the trains would just not have panoramic windows and a connection in Erstfeld would be involved. The trip involves taking a train from Lugano to Erstfeld and then another train from Erstfeld to either Flüelen or straight to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lucerne</a>. If you take the train to Flüelen, you can continue on to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lucerne</a> by taking the SGV steamboat over Lake Lucerne.<br /><br />When the direct Gotthard Panorama Express runs, it requires reservations; however, the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld and Erstfeld to Flüelen/Lucerne do not even accept reservations. Therefore, a Eurail Pass or a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> would be all you’d need to board.<br /><br />Schedules for the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld and Erstfeld to Flüelen or <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/city/lucerne">Lucerne</a> are not able to be viewed on our website. For your reference, the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld depart every 2 hours throughout the day, and the ride takes about 2 hours. Trains from Erstfeld to Flüelen depart every half-hour throughout the day and the ride only takes 7 or 8 minutes. Trains from Erstfeld to Lucerne depart every 2 hours throughout the day, and the ride takes just over 1 hour.<br /><br />With a Eurail Pass, you would be able to receive 50% off a ticket on the SGV steamboat from Flüelen to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lucerne</a>. With a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link https//wwwraileuropecom/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a>, you would be completely covered to take the SGV steamboat from Flüelen to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne">Lucerne</a>. The boat ride from Flüelen to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lucerne</a> takes about 2.5 hours..
  • November 06, 2018 21:06
    Jeff
    Change in reply by Jeff to Hi Eric,<br /><br />A multi-country Eurail Pass and the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> would both be valid to cover the ticket costs on all of the scenic trains you listed, as well as connections from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow">Interlaken</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow">Zermatt</a>. Whenever reservations are required, they are an additional cost to a rail pass.<br /><br />While the main objective of a rail pass generally is to cover trains running ‘inter-city’ between different cities, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is unique in that it covers more than just rail travel. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is unique from other rail passes in that it also covers boats, city buses, and city transit networks in <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland" rel="nofollow">Switzerland</a>. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> will also provide for the best possible discounts on mountain railways (including cable cars and funiculars) and allows for entry to over 490 museums around <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/destinations/country-guides/article/switzerland">Switzerland</a>.<br /><br />Multi-country Eurail Passes (that include Switzerland) will also will provide for discounts on many mountain railways, but the discounts are generally not as much as they would be with the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow">Swiss Travel Pass</a>. For instance, in cases where a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow">Swiss Travel Pass</a> might provide for a 50% discount, the Eurail Pass discount would only be 25%.<br /><br />For info about bonuses with the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a>, you would refer to the page for the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow">Swiss Travel Pass</a> on our website, scroll down slightly, and click 'Rail pass benefits'. The page for the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is here: <a href="http://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: http://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">http://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934</a>.<br /><br />For info about bonuses with the 2 country Eurail Select Pass, you would refer to the page for this pass on our website and do the same. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354">2 country Eurail Select Pass for Italy and Switzerland</a> is here: <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354">https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354</a><br /><br /><b><u>Interlaken to Zermatt</u></b><br /><br />Connections from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow">Interlaken</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow">Zermatt</a> take just over 2 hours in duration and involve 2 train changes along the way; once in Spiez and then in Visp. Reservations are not at all necessary on these trains, so a rail pass is all you would need to board, whether it be a Eurail Pass or a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow">Swiss Travel Pass</a>.<br /><br />For planning purposes, you can still use the route search feature under 'Book Train Tickets' on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom">www.raileurope.com</a>) just to view schedules for these trains. For a trip from <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow">Interlaken</a> to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/zermatt" rel="nofollow">Zermatt</a>, you would just have to break up your search in either Spiez or Visp (i.e. one search for trains from Interlaken to Spiez and then another search for the part of the connection from Spiez to Zermatt). Otherwise, you can just piece together your search segment-by-segment (i.e. one search from Interlaken to Spiez, another search for connecting trains from Spiez to Visp, and then another search for connecting trains from Visp to Zermatt).<br /><br />If, following any of your searches for this route, you see a message that says “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass”, just disregard it. That message is in no way accurate. Rest assured, you can use either of these rail passes on all of these trains.<br /><br />The segment from Visp to Zermatt does run along a portion of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow">Glacier Express</a> scenic route. For just this one small segment of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528">Glacier Express</a> route, reservations are not necessary.<br /><br /><b><u>GoldenPass</u></b><br /><br />The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow">GoldenPass scenic route</a> runs from Montreux to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a> and involves changing trains in Zweisimmen and <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/interlaken" rel="nofollow">Interlaken</a> along the way.<br /><br />Of the trains comprising of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546">GoldenPass</a> route, reservations are only recommended on the segment between Montreux and Zweisimmen. For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations on a train from Montreux to Zweisimmen by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’).<br /><br />On the other segments of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow">GoldenPass</a> route (Zweisimmen to Interlaken and Interlaken to Lucerne), reservations are possible but not necessary. If you also would like to have reservations for these segments, you would just have to piece together the connection by doing a separate search for each segment. Therefore, you would do one search for trains from Montreux to Zweisimmen, another search for connecting trains from Zweisimmen to Interlaken, and then another search for connecting trains from Interlaken to Lucerne. When you pull up the results of a Zweisimmen-Interlaken search, just be sure to look for the direct trains. Generally, <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/goldenpass-line-7546">GoldenPass</a> trains can be reserved once within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Glacier Express</u></b><br /><br />The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow">Glacier Express</a> is closed for maintenance every year during this time, but it will begin running again in mid-December. This scenic train runs from Zermatt to St Moritz and requires reservations. For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations for the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow">Glacier Express</a> from Zermatt to St Moritz by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’). Generally, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/glacier-express-7528" rel="nofollow">Glacier Express</a> can be reserved once within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Bernina Express</u></b><br /><br />The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> scenic train runs from either St Moritz or Chur to Tirano in Italy. The bus segment of the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> is from Tirano to Lugano, but it only runs from April to October each year. Even though Tirano is in Italy, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> is valid to cover the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> trains and the bus. The <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545">Bernina Express</a> trains (St Moritz/Chur-Tirano) and the bus (Tirano-Lugano) both do require reservations as a supplement to a rail pass. Please be advised that the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> would not be valid on other connections from Tirano to Lugano that go through Italy; only the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow">Bernina Express</a> bus.<br /><br />For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link http//wwwraileuropecom">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’). For anyone doing the train and the bus, the search would need to be pieced together segment-by-segment (i.e. one search from St Moritz to Tirano and then another search from Tirano to Lugano). Generally, the <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/train/bernina-express-7545" rel="nofollow">Bernina Express</a> can only be reserved within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Gotthard Panorama Express route</u></b><br /><br />From mid-October to mid-April, the direct Gotthard Panorama Express trains actually do not run. Even though the actual Gotthard Panorama Express will not be operating in December, you can still travel from Lugano up to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a> following the same route; the trains would just not have panoramic windows and a connection in Erstfeld would be involved. The trip involves taking a train from Lugano to Erstfeld and then another train from Erstfeld to either Flüelen or straight to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a>. If you take the train to Flüelen, you can continue on to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a> by taking the SGV steamboat over Lake Lucerne.<br /><br />When the direct Gotthard Panorama Express runs, it requires reservations; however, the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld and Erstfeld to Flüelen/Lucerne do not even accept reservations. Therefore, a Eurail Pass or a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a> would be all you’d need to board.<br /><br />Schedules for the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld and Erstfeld to Flüelen or <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne">Lucerne</a> are not able to be viewed on our website. For your reference, the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld depart every 2 hours throughout the day, and the ride takes about 2 hours. Trains from Erstfeld to Flüelen depart every half-hour throughout the day and the ride only takes 7 or 8 minutes. Trains from Erstfeld to Lucerne depart every 2 hours throughout the day, and the ride takes just over 1 hour.<br /><br />With a Eurail Pass, you would be able to receive 50% off a ticket on the SGV steamboat from Flüelen to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a>. With a <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow" title="Link: https://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934">Swiss Travel Pass</a>, you would be completely covered to take the SGV steamboat from Flüelen to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a>. The boat ride from Flüelen to <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/city/lucerne" rel="nofollow">Lucerne</a> takes about 2.5 hours..
  • November 06, 2018 19:37
    Jeff
    Change in reply by Jeff to Hi Eric,<br /><br />A multi-country Eurail Pass and the Swiss Travel Pass would both be valid to cover the ticket costs on all of the scenic trains you listed, as well as connections from Interlaken to Zermatt. Whenever reservations are required, they are an additional cost to a rail pass.<br /><br />While the main objective of a rail pass generally is to cover trains running ‘inter-city’ between different cities, the Swiss Travel Pass is unique in that it covers more than just rail travel. The Swiss Travel Pass is unique from other rail passes in that it also covers boats, city buses, and city transit networks in Switzerland. The Swiss Travel Pass will also provide for the best possible discounts on mountain railways (including cable cars and funiculars) and allows for entry to over 490 museums around Switzerland.<br /><br />Multi-country Eurail Passes (that include Switzerland) will also will provide for discounts on many mountain railways, but the discounts are generally not as much as they would be with the Swiss Travel Pass. For instance, in cases where a Swiss Travel Pass might provide for a 50% discount, the Eurail Pass discount would only be 25%.<br /><br />For info about bonuses with the Swiss Travel Pass, you would refer to the page for the Swiss Travel Pass on our website, scroll down slightly, and click 'Rail pass benefits'. The page for the Swiss Travel Pass is here: <a href="http://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934" rel="nofollow">http://www.raileurope.com/pass/swiss-pass-5934</a>.<br /><br />For info about bonuses with the 2 country Eurail Select Pass, you would refer to the page for this pass on our website and do the same. The 2 country Eurail Select Pass for Italy and Switzerland is here: <a href="https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354" rel="nofollow">https://www.raileurope.com/pass/italy-switzerland-pass-8354</a><br /><br /><b><u>Interlaken to Zermatt</u></b><br /><br />Connections from Interlaken to Zermatt take just over 2 hours in duration and involve 2 train changes along the way; once in Spiez and then in Visp. Reservations are not at all necessary on these trains, so a rail pass is all you would need to board, whether it be a Eurail Pass or a Swiss Travel Pass.<br /><br />For planning purposes, you can still use the route search feature under 'Book Train Tickets' on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" title="Link: http://www.raileurope.com">www.raileurope.com</a>) just to view schedules for these trains. For a trip from Interlaken to Zermatt, you would just have to break up your search in either Spiez or Visp (i.e. one search for trains from Interlaken to Spiez and then another search for the part of the connection from Spiez to Zermatt). Otherwise, you can just piece together your search segment-by-segment (i.e. one search from Interlaken to Spiez, another search for connecting trains from Spiez to Visp, and then another search for connecting trains from Visp to Zermatt).<br /><br />If, following any of your searches for this route, you see a message that says “the fares you requested are not available with the selected rail pass”, just disregard it. That message is in no way accurate. Rest assured, you can use either of these rail passes on all of these trains.<br /><br />The segment from Visp to Zermatt does run along a portion of the Glacier Express scenic route. For just this one small segment of the Glacier Express route, reservations are not necessary.<br /><br /><b><u>GoldenPass</u></b><br /><br />The GoldenPass scenic route runs from Montreux to Lucerne and involves changing trains in Zweisimmen and Interlaken along the way.<br /><br />Of the trains comprising of the GoldenPass route, reservations are only recommended on the segment between Montreux and Zweisimmen. For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations on a train from Montreux to Zweisimmen by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" title="Link: http://www.raileurope.com">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’).<br /><br />On the other segments of the GoldenPass route (Zweisimmen to Interlaken and Interlaken to Lucerne), reservations are possible but not necessary. If you also would like to have reservations for these segments, you would just have to piece together the connection by doing a separate search for each segment. Therefore, you would do one search for trains from Montreux to Zweisimmen, another search for connecting trains from Zweisimmen to Interlaken, and then another search for connecting trains from Interlaken to Lucerne. When you pull up the results of a Zweisimmen-Interlaken search, just be sure to look for the direct trains. Generally, GoldenPass trains can be reserved once within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Glacier Express</u></b><br /><br />The Glacier Express is closed for maintenance every year during this time, but it will begin running again in mid-December. This scenic train runs from Zermatt to St Moritz and requires reservations. For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations for the Glacier Express from Zermatt to St Moritz by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’). Generally, the Glacier Express can be reserved once within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Bernina Express</u></b><br /><br />The Bernina Express scenic train runs from either St Moritz or Chur to Tirano in Italy. The bus segment of the Bernina Express is from Tirano to Lugano, but it only runs from April to October each year. Even though Tirano is in Italy, the Swiss Travel Pass is valid to cover the Bernina Express trains and the bus. The Bernina Express trains (St Moritz/Chur-Tirano) and the bus (Tirano-Lugano) both do require reservations as a supplement to a rail pass. Please be advised that the Swiss Travel Pass would not be valid on other connections from Tirano to Lugano that go through Italy; only the Bernina Express bus.<br /><br />For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations by searching the route on our homepage (<a href="http://www.raileurope.com" rel="nofollow" title="Link: http://www.raileurope.com">www.raileurope.com</a>), checking the box that says ‘I have a rail pass’, and then indicating the type of rail pass with which you'll be traveling (i.e. a ‘Eurail Two-Country Select Pass’ or ‘Swiss Travel Pass’). For anyone doing the train and the bus, the search would need to be pieced together segment-by-segment (i.e. one search from St Moritz to Tirano and then another search from Tirano to Lugano). Generally, the Bernina Express can only be reserved within 90 days of an intended departure date.<br /><br /><b><u>Gotthard Panorama Express route</u></b><br /><br />From mid-October to mid-April, the direct Gotthard Panorama Express trains actually do not run. Even though the actual Gotthard Panorama Express will not be operating in December, you can still travel from Lugano up to Lucerne following the same route; the trains would just not have panoramic windows and a connection in Erstfeld would be involved. The trip involves taking a train from Lugano to Erstfeld and then another train from Erstfeld to either Flüelen or straight to Lucerne. If you take the train to Flüelen, you can continue on to Lucerne by taking the SGV steamboat over Lake Lucerne.<br /><br />When the direct Gotthard Panorama Express runs, it requires reservations; however, the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld and Erstfeld to Flüelen/Lucerne do not even accept reservations. Therefore, a Eurail Pass or a Swiss Travel Pass would be all you’d need to board.<br /><br />Schedules for the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld and Erstfeld to Flüelen or Lucerne are not able to be viewed on our website. For your reference, the trains from Lugano to Erstfeld depart every 2 hours throughout the day, and the ride takes about 2 hours. Trains from Erstfeld to Flüelen depart every half-hour throughout the day and the ride only takes 7 or 8 minutes. Trains from Erstfeld to Lucerne depart every 2 hours throughout the day, and the ride takes just over 1 hour.<br /><br />With a Eurail Pass, you would be able to receive 50% off a ticket on the SGV steamboat from Flüelen to Lucerne. With a Swiss Travel Pass, you would be completely covered to take the SGV steamboat from Flüelen to Lucerne. The boat ride from Flüelen to Lucerne takes about 2.5 hours..

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