Can my Eurail Austria Pass cover from Zurich to the Rhein Falls & then to Salzburg if my Swiss Pass isn't activated yet or do I need an additional ticket to the border? Using Swiss Pass for Glacier Express, Golden Pass, Jungfraujoch, Mt Titlis, & Mt Pilatus.

Hello,

We are a group of 5 adults. Planning for 10 days trip to Switzerland and Austria. We are going to do entire travelling by public transport. So I thought it wud be best to choose a 8-day Swiss pass (train+bus+boat) (for my last 7 days) and separate 4-day Austria pass (only train available) (my initial 4 days). Hope thats a right decision than taking a Swiss-Austria 10-day pass (since, it does not include bus/boats in Swiss). Everything 2nd class (budget, recession... ;) )

On my first day, I am planning to visit the Rhine falls in Neuhausen and then go to Salzburg from Zurich via RailJet train RJ169.

My question is will the Austria pass cover the entire journey from Zurich to Austria? Note that my Swiss pass wont be activated on my first day. So do I have to buy a separate ticket from Zurich till border?
If so, would it make more sense to simply buy a Swiss pass for straight 15 days, as it would also cover my trip to Neuhausen n back to Zurich?

Really confused on this, hope my question is clear.
If it helps you to know: My itinerary: Rhine falls, Vienna, Salzburg-Werfen caves, Innsbruck, Glacier Express, Jungfroujoch, Meiringen-Brienz, Golden pass-Lucern city tour, Mt. Titlis, Mt. Pilatus => Airport.

Need a quick answer on this, as my dates are 6th July till 15th July. So need to book immediately.

Thanks,

Piyu,
Mumbai, India.
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) June 11, 2013 21:16
    Hello,

    This messageboard is for the United States-based seller of European train tickets and passes for North American countries. We are generally not able to sell to residents of countries outside of North America, due to local restrictions. Residents of countries outside of North America would have to book through an affiliated agent in their own country. If you are from India, you would have to refer to an agent there. The website you would refer to is http://www.raileurope.co.in/, where there should be a 'Contact Us' link for you to submit your questions.
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  • Hi Jeff,

    I am from US, but I am in Mumbai currently and taking my parents to Europe on our way to US. Yes, I will need the delivery of my passes to India, but I thought my question was irrespective of the country i want my passes to be delivered to. It would be helpful if u answered my question if its not too much trouble.

    Thanks.
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) June 12, 2013 16:39
    I'm sorry, since you mentioned it in your post, I assumed you were from India. Also, we are not able to account for what is offered on other sites, so any information I provided might not have been applicable if that was the case.

    To get to the Rhein Falls from Zurich, you would take a direct train to Schaffhausen, where you would connect to bus that will take you to Neuhausen am Rheinfall. You would exit the bus at the 'Zentrum' stop, from where it would be about a 10 minute walk to the northern banks of the falls. Please note, the walk is down a very steep hill and is not recommended for those who have difficulty walking.

    Any rail pass (issued from us) that includes Switzerland would cover the ticket costs for the train from Zurich to Schaffhausen. Trains from Zurich to Schaffhausen don't accept reservations, so the rail pass would be all that is needed to board. The bus from Schaffhausen to Neuhausen-Zentrum would be covered only with an actual Swiss Pass (it would not be covered with any multi-country pass that includes Switzerland).

    If you do not wish to use your Swiss Pass for this particular trip, then you would purchase regular point-to-point tickets for the train from Zurich to Schaffhausen, and then you would have to pay to board the bus from Schaffhausen to Neuhausen-Zentrum locally upon arrival.

    You would then go back to Zurich, in order to connect to your train to Salzburg. Once again, if you do not wish to use your Swiss Pass for this part of your trip, then you would have to purchase separate point-to-point tickets for that train from Schaffhausen back to Zurich (and for the bus from Neuhausen, locally).

    If you do not wish to use your Swiss Pass for the portion of the train from Zurich to Salzburg that's in Switzerland, then you would need to purchase a separate point-to-point ticket to cover you from Zurich up to the border with Austria. Specifially, the ticket you would purchase to cover this would be an open ticket from Zurich to the town of Buchs. Your Eurail Austria Pass would then cover you once you get to Buchs. It would also be recommended that you purchase reservations for the train from Zurich to Salzburg, in addition to the tickets from Zurich to Buchs and the Eurail Austria Pass.

    Your suggestion to purchase the 15 consecutive day Swiss Pass would be a good solution if you don't want to have to purchase these additional tickets for your travels in Switzerland at the beginning of your trip.

    You can arrange for documents to be shipped to you at an address in India; however, delivery to an international address is not able to be arranged on our website. To arrange for an order to be delivered to you at an address in India, you would call us at 1-800-622-8600 or 1-847-916-1028. Our current hours are 9:00 AM to 8:30 PM ET Monday to Friday and 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM ET on Saturday and Sunday.
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) June 12, 2013 16:47
    As part of the Mount Pilatus mountaintop excursion, the Swiss Pass would cover the steamer from Lucerne to Alpnachstad, where you would then take the cog railway up the mountain. You would then take a cable car down to Kriens. Once you have descended by cable car back down to Kriens, you would use your Swiss Pass to board a bus back to Lucerne. To be covered on the cog from Alpnachstad up the mountain and the cable car down to Kriens, you would still have to purchase the Mount Pilatus Pass. For information on this pass, you would click here:
    http://www.raileurope.com/activities/mount-pilatus/index.html .

    You would refer to the '1 Day Round-Trip Journey From Alpnachstad or Kriens - For Use Only With Swiss Pass' option of the Mount Pilatus Pass.
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) June 12, 2013 16:49
    For your trip to Mount Titlis, you would purchase the Mount Titlis Pass. For information on this pass, you would click here: http://www.raileurope.com/activities/mount-titlis/index.html .

    Since you'll be traveling with the Swiss Pass, you would refer to the '1 Day Round-Trip Journey from Engelberg - For Use Only With Swiss Pass' option of the Mount Titlis Pass.

    The trek up Mount Titlis is by cable car. These do not have set schedules, as they operate continuously. The first cable car is from Engelberg to Trübsee, the second cable car is from Trübsee to Stand, and the third cable car is from Stand to Titlis.
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) June 12, 2013 16:50
    For a trip up to Jungfraujoch, you would be covered as far as Wengen or Grindelwald. With the Swiss Pass, you would still have to purchase the '1 Day Round-Trip Journey from Grindelwald or Wengen - For Use Only With Swiss Pass' option of the Jungfraujoch Top of Europe Pass. For information on this pass, you would click here: http://www.raileurope.com/activities/jungfraujoch/index.html .
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) June 12, 2013 16:53
    The full route of the GoldenPass between Montreux to Lucerne involves changing trains twice along the way; once in Zweisimmen and then once in Interlaken.

    Actual seat reservations would be a supplementary cost to the rail pass. On the GoldenPass route, it is really only advisable to have reservations on the trains between Montreux and Zweisimmen. Reservations aren't really necessary on the trains from Zweisimmen to Interlaken and the trains from Interlaken to Lucerne.

    For travel with a rail pass, you would purchase reservations by clicking on 'Book your Rail Pass Reservations' on our homepage, entering the cities, and indicating the type of rail pass you'll be traveling with, when prompted. If you decide to purchase reservations for the entire route of the GoldenPass, you would just break up your search once in Interlaken. Therefore, you would do one search for the segment from Montreux to Interlaken and another search for the segment from Interlaken to Lucerne. Otherwise, you can just purchase reservations for the segment from Montreux to Zweisimmen, and then the rail pass is all you would need to board the train from Zweisimmen to Interlaken and the train from Interlaken to Lucerne.

    For planning purposes, you can just check schedules for any of the segments you don't make reservations for by entering the cities after clicking on 'Find Fares & Schedules' on our homepage (instead of 'Book your Rail Pass Reservations') and not indicating that you'll be traveling with a rail pass.

    Generally, the GoldenPass trains can be booked once within 90 days of an intended date of departure.
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) June 12, 2013 16:56
    With regard to the Glacier Express scenic route between St. Moritz and Zermatt, reservations would be required in addition to the Swiss Pass. You can check reservation costs by clicking on 'Book your Rail Pass Reservations' on the homepage of our website, www.raileurope.com.

    The Glacier Express can sell out quickly, so it is recommended that reservations be purchased as soon as possible. Like the GoldenPass, the Glacier Express can be booked at any point within 90 days of an intended departure date, depending on availability.
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  • So, you mean to say that if I go for Swiss-Austria pass, then buses (eg. Trummelbach waterfalls from Lauterbrunnen, Or multiple buses within Lucern city during its city tour) wont be covered with that.. But, these buses will be covered if I take a Swiss pass (one country), right?
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  • n yes, I should mention, thank you so much for the awesomely detailed reply earlier. It was really helpful.
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  • This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    Are busses covered by Austria Eurail pass?.


    I have clients who want to get a 3-day Eurail Austria flexi pass to go from Innsbruck to Salzburg, Salzburg to Hallstatt, Hallstatt to Vienna. Their question is can they take the bus from Salzburg to Hallstatt, or do they need to take the train? I can't seem to find this
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