I’m confused!

Purchasing a pass & reservations on the World site?

Me and wife travelling to Spain, France, Switzerland and Italy for a 18 day tour. We initially checked point-to-point tickets on RailEurope which seemed expensive and thus decided to take a RailEurope Global pass for 21 days (since the option was either 15 or 20).
However, while booking on the Rail Europe GCC site, we could not find some of the tickets we needed. This led us to search tickets directly from websites of Renfe, Lyria, SBB and TrenItalia. The result is given below. My questions:

1- Is selecting a 21 day pass correct or will the 15 day pass suit more (based on itinerary below)

2- The separate tickets are cheaper overall and also available for the ideal timings we need. So why should we go for Global Pass...like what other benefits will the global pass have in the almost 500Euro excess I pay? Considering that we are spending very little time in each city and mainly going to visit the main 2-5 attractions each city, and Global Pass doesn't cover bus travel, will it save us any money in these cities in train travel or in discounts or esp. in case of Switzerland any % off on trains/other travels to Titlis, Pilatus, Rigi, Interlaken etc from Lucerne?

3- It seems strange why the ideal time required tickets are available to buy from direct website but not in RailEurope GCC site. Is it possible to somehow get those tickets through RailEurope GCC?

Itinerary:

- Madrid to Cordoba (27 Oct Sat) 8am (reach 9:42am)

- Cordoba to Granada (28 Oct Sun) 11:10am (reach 1:30pm)

- Granada to Barcelona (29 Oct Mon) 10:15pm (reach 30 Oct Tues 9:29am)

- Barcelona to Paris (31 Oct Wed) - Ideal time needed 8:43pm (reach Paris 1 Nov Thur 8:37am) - available from Renfe webiste. Not available on Rail Europe GCC site. Alternate available is 8:16am, reach Paris by 3:53pm (or another afternoon option but either way it will waste whole day in travelling).

- Paris to Lucerne (3 Nov Sat) - 8:23am, (reach 1:30pm)

- Lucerne to Montreux (6 Nov Tues) - Ideal time 7am (reach 9:39am, not available on RailEurope GCC site, only available through SBB website direct) - Alternate from RailEurope GCC is 9:55am to Interlaken at 11:55am, then from Interlaken at 1:05pm to Montruex 4pm - on GoldenPass Panorama.

- Montreux to Milan (8 Nov Thur) 8:38am (reach by 11:35am)

- Milan to Rome (9 Nov Frid) 6:20am (reach by 9:45am).

Cost for me and wife both combined (keeping the class and seat types same in both cases):

RailEurope = 21 day Pass + reservations+booking fee = 1178+(18+18+117.8+36+74+18+28.8+20+20)+60 = 1588.6 Euros

From direct website without pass = 97.6+72.2+130.6+316+272+53.6+119 = 1062
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  • Hello Ali,

    The Rail Europe Community-powered support is intended for the North American market. We are unable to comment on the prices or suggestions made by other offices that carry the Rail Europe name. You may email your question to them directly at http://www.raileurope-gcc.com/spip.ph....
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  • Dear Tom

    Thanks for your reply, however, can you let me know the other general aspects like:

    1- 15 day pass or 21 day pass?
    2- RailEurope global pass+reservations or individual from direct websites?
    3- The individual direct tickets which we need (Barc-Paris and Lucern-Montreux) is there anyway to book them through RailEurope?
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  • 1—From the information you provided, you have either 19 consecutive days in Europe or 8 days of actual rail travel. Since you are only traveling in Spain, France, Switzerland, and Italy, you may want to consider a Eurail 8-day 4-country select pass (if they are available via the GCC site).

    2—Rail Europe is able to price compare the passes/reservations to the point-to-point prices we are sell the routes at. These prices are in U.S. or Canadian Dollars. We are unable to price compare to the carrier’s individual websites.

    3—Our North American office is able to service residents of North America. If you have a question regarding schedules on the GCC site, you may find contact information at http://www.raileurope-gcc.com/spip.ph....
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  • Thaks Tom!

    What about a 15 day global pass? If I activate it on 27 October (when I travel from Madrid to Cordoba), it will last until 10 November which is my last day in Rome when I fly out Sunday 11 Nov. The difference in cost is 250Euro approx. Do you think my roaming around in Madrid for 2 days I will have to use trains exceeding 250Euro?

    In case of 8-day pass, I can only use it on intercity travel dates, but not in travelling in a city itself, right? So within a city travel will cost me too much and 15 days seem better idea?

    Eurail Global Pass will cover all train travel right? I have hotel in Brünig Hasliberg, I will have to take train from Lucerne/Interlaken to Hasilberg, will that be covered?
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  • If a 15 consecutive day pass is activated on October 27, it would be valid for travel through November 10. I am unable to comment on theoretical prices if you travel around Madrid and any prices for the tickets that we sell will be in U.S. or Canadian Dollars.

    The rail passes (with few exceptions) do not include travel within the cities. A full list of bonuses will be included with your pass when you make your purchase.

    You will be able to board night trains, however you will have to pay the supplement for the sleeping compartment or seats (if they are available on the train).

    If you have questions regarding planning, you may email the GCC Rail Europe branch using their contact information at http://www.raileurope-gcc.com/spip.ph....
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