How can you travel to Paris, France with just a railpass for Switzerland?

Hello,

My friend and I are going to explore Swiss and France in May. We will spend 4 days in Swiss and then another 4 days in France. What is the best option to get around? Does the Swiss 2 for 1 deal include the pass to France? Or, if we buy the Swiss-France pass, can we use the pass for local trains or metros in each countries?

Here's our rough itinerary :
In Switzerland, we're thinking to go from Zurich to Lucerne to Interlaken to Geneva.
From Geneva, we're going to Paris.
Then, we're just going to explore Paris as much as we can...

Please help! Your help is really appreciated!

Thank you!!
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  • Hello Lia,
    No the 2 for 1 deal is just for a swiss pass and does not include France. But you could very well take advantage of this offer for your 4 days in Switzerland and then just buy tickets from Geneva to Paris. You can do both on our sites.
    First purchase the 2 for 1 Swiss pass then continue shopping, go back to the home page and using the booking box enter Geneva to Paris.
    If you book the pass and tickets together you will save on shipping fees!
    have a great trip.
    Fred
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) March 16, 2012 20:27
    Hi Lia,

    With the Swiss Pass (or the Swiss 2-for-1 Pass), you can purchase your tickets for the Lyria high-speed train from Geneva to Paris at what is known as the 'Passholder 3' rate. The Passholder 3 rate is a special rate that was created to allow passengers in possession of a Swiss Pass to take a train up to Paris at a lesser cost, even though the train would be traveling through France, which is not covered by a Swiss Pass.

    To ensure you are purchasing the tickets at a Passholder 3 rate for a direct train from Geneva to Paris, you would take the following steps:

    1.) You would do a search for the individual train under 'Book a Reservation for Your Pass' and indicate the type of pass you are traveling with when prompted (you would just type 'Swiss Pass').

    2.) You would then locate a direct train and click on 'Select' listed with the costs that are shown for your preferred train.

    3.) After you've clicked on 'Select', you would then refer to where it says 'Ticket Flexibility'. Underneath 'Ticket Flexibility', you may see 3 options: 'Non Flexible', 'Semi Flexible' and 'Fully Flexible. You would click 'Read More' next to each of these options until you see the fare titled 'Lyria Passholder 3'. Generally, the Passholder 3 rate would be found under the 'Fully Flexible' option.

    4.) Be sure the option labeled as 'Lyria Passholder 3' is checked, and then click 'Select' to proceed and add it to your shopping cart.

    In some instances, for this kind of search, you may see an incorrect error message that states the following:

    "This train requires the passholder to purchase a seat reservation; however the passholder fares are unavailable or sold out at this time. This schedule is informational only. Please reserve your train at a train station in Europe."

    You can disregard this error message as it is very possible that the train is not "unavailable or sold out" as it states, and I would then recommend that you call us at 1-800-622-8600 to verify the fare's availability and book your tickets.

    We hope to have the issue with this error message showing fixed as soon as possible, and we're sorry for any confusion.

    If you purchase the Eurail France-Switzerland Pass, then you can just purchase reservations for the train from Geneva to Paris at the regular 'Passholder 1' rate.
    • Jeff (Official Rep) April 24, 2018 16:16
      IMPORTANT UPDATE

      As of April 2018:

      ‘Passholder 2’ and ‘Passholder 3’ rates on TGV Lyria trains (Geneva-Paris) are no longer valid for travel with Eurail Passes. TGV Lyria now requires that Eurail Passes include all countries being traveled through to be valid.

      The ‘Passholder 3’ rate would now only be valid for travel with a Swiss Travel Pass.
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) March 16, 2012 20:41
    To address your question regarding metro and subway systems, most rail passes do not include subway networks and bus service within a city. However, the Swiss Pass is a notable exception. The Swiss Pass covers travel on city transit systems throughout Switzerland, including city buses as well.

    A rail pass that includes France would not cover travel on the Metro or city buses in Paris. For Paris, we do offer various city passes that can cover travel on the Metro and even museum entry. If you ever wish to see what city passes may be offered for a particular city, you would click on 'Activities' from the homepage of our website and then identify the city and country where prompted. The direct link to the various city passes for Paris is here: http://www.raileurope.com/en/activiti....

    From there, you might be particularly interested in the 'Paris Pass' or the 'Paris Visite' and the 'Paris Museum Pass'.
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  • would i need to use one day of the swiss pass to travel from geneva to paris?
    • Jeff (Official Rep) February 04, 2013 16:36
      Hi,

      With the Swiss Pass, you can purchase your tickets for the Lyria high-speed train from Geneva to Paris at what is known as the 'Passholder 3' rate, and it would use up a day of rail travel on your pass. The Passholder 3 rate is a special rate that was created to allow passengers in possession of a Swiss Pass to take a direct train from certain cities in Switzerland to Paris at a lesser cost, even though your pass does not include France.

      To ensure you are purchasing the tickets at a Passholder 3 rate for a direct train from Geneva to Paris, you would take the following steps:

      1.) You would do a search for the individual train under 'Book your Rail Pass Reservations' and indicate the type of pass you are traveling with when prompted (you would just type 'Swiss Pass').

      2.) You would then locate a direct train and click on 'View' listed with the costs that are shown for your preferred train.

      3.) After you've clicked on 'View', you would then refer to where it says 'Ticket Flexibility'. Underneath 'Ticket Flexibility', you may see 3 options: 'Non Flexible', 'Semi Flexible' and 'Fully Flexible. You would click 'Read More' next to each of these options until you see the fare titled 'TGV Lyria Passholder 3' or something similar. Generally, the Passholder 3 rate for this train would be found under the 'Fully Flexible' option.

      4.) Be sure the option labeled as 'TGV Lyria Passholder 3' is checked, and then click 'Select' to proceed and add it to your shopping cart.
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