How can I stop in Amsterdam en route between Copenhagen and Paris if I don't have the Netherlands on my Eurail Select Pass?

Hi, i have a 5 country ueurail pass. on my way back from paris to copenhagen i would like to stop in amsterdam. do i have to buy a portion of my ticket since the netherlands is not one of my 5 countries??
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) March 27, 2012 21:48
    Hi John,

    The Netherlands is included on rail passes as a part of the 'Benelux'. The Benelux covers Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg and counts them as one country for the purpose of railpasses. If you do not have the Benelux on your Eurail Select Pass, you can still travel to Amsterdam en route from Copenhagen to Paris by purchasing an additional ticket to cover you from the Dutch/German border to Amsterdam.

    Whether you do a day connection from Copenhagen to Amsterdam (which would involve 2 train changes along the way; once in Hamburg and then once in Duisburg) or the direct night train from Copenhagen to Amsterdam, the ticket you would purchase to cover you in the Netherlands would be an open ticket from the town of Emmerich to Amsterdam. You can purchase this ticket just by selecting any connection that displays from a search on our website for trains from Emmerich to Amsterdam on the date you intend to travel. Even though you would be selecting a specific connection (departure time) from Emmerich to Amsterdam on our website, we would just issue you the open ticket necessary for you to show to the conductor to cover the ticket costs for once you cross over into the Netherlands coming from Duisburg in Germany or directly on the night train from Copenhagen.

    You would do the search for connections from Emmerich to Amsterdam under 'Check Fares and Schedules' on the homepage of our website. The results of a search for connections from Emmerich to Amsterdam will show a train change in Oberhausen en route. For your purpose, you would just pick any one of the connections that display for this route, even though you would not actually be riding on those trains. It is just so we would issue you the appropriate ticket to cover you since the Benelux is not included in your pass.

    Additionally, since you would also then be traveling from Amsterdam to Paris with a pass that does not include the Benelux, you would purchase your reservations on this train at what is known as the 'Passholder 2' rate. The 'Passholder 2' rate is a special rate created on the Thalys trains (the direct trains between Amsterdam and Paris) to allow passengers in possession of a rail pass that only covers one of the countries being traveled through for a particular Thalys route, to still take the train at a lesser cost.

    To ensure you are purchasing the reservations at a Passholder 2 rate for a direct train from Amsterdam to Paris, you would take the following steps:

    1.) You would do a search for the individual train under 'Book a Reservation for Your Pass' and indicate the type of pass you are traveling with when prompted.

    2.) You would then locate a direct train and click on 'Select' listed with the costs that are shown for your preferred train.

    3.) After you've clicked on 'Select', you would then refer to where it says 'Ticket Flexibility'. Underneath 'Ticket Flexibility', you may see 3 options: 'Non Flexible', 'Semi Flexible' and 'Fully Flexible. You would click 'Read More' next to each of these options until you see the fare titled 'Thalys Passholder 2'. Generally, the Passholder 2 rate would be found under the 'Semi Flexible' option.

    4.) Be sure the option labeled as 'Thalys Passholder 2' is checked, and then click 'Select' to proceed and add it to your shopping cart.

    The Passholder rates can sell out very quickly, so we would just recommend booking your reservations as soon as possible. The Thalys trains can be booked at any point within 90 days of an intended date of departure.

    Please note, my response to your post does assume that you have Denmark, Germany and France on your Eurail Select Pass, since you did not mention to the contrary.
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) March 28, 2012 00:21
    Just to follow up in regards to your trip from Copenhagen to Amsterdam: In addition, the open ticket from Emmerich to Amsterdam to cover you for when you cross over into the Netherlands, don't forget to also purchase reservations for the specific trains you'll be taking.

    For the day connection, as alluded to above, you would change trains twice along the way; once in Hamburg and then once in Duisburg. In its entirety, this connection takes about 10.5 hours in duration. To book the reservations, you would click on 'Book a Reservation for Your Pass' from the homepage of our website and piece together the connection by doing separate searches for each segment of the trip. Therefore, you would do one search for trains from Copenhagen to Hamburg, another search for connecting trains from Hamburg to Duisburg and another search for connecting trains from Duisburg to Amsterdam.

    Since you would be purchasing that open ticket from Emmerich to Amsterdam to cover you when you cross over into the Netherlands, you can just indicate that you'll be traveling with a Eurail Global Pass when prompted to enter the type of pass you'll be traveling with after clicking on 'Book a Reservation for Your Pass'. By doing this, you will be quoted the correct reservation fees for each train (all that matters is that the ticket costs are covered for the reservations to be valid at the costs shown). Each of the trains comprising of this connection can be booked at any point within 90 days of an intended date of departure.

    If you opt to take the direct overnight train from Copenhagen to Amsterdam, there is an alternative to purchasing that extra open ticket from Emmerich to Amsterdam to cover you in the Netherlands, and that is the Passholder 2 fare. City Night Line, the train operator of the night train from Copenhagen to Amsterdam, does offer the Passholder 2 fare as an option for passengers traveling with a pass that only includes one of the countries being traveled through for a particular train. To be quoted the Passholder 2 fares for sleeping accommodations on this train, you would just indicate the actual rail pass you have when prompted to enter the type of pass you'll be traveling with (i.e. a Eurail Select Pass that does not include the Benelux). By indicating that you'll be traveling with a pass that doesn't include the Benelux, our system will know to quote you the Passholder 2 fares you'll be eligible to receive. You would still just want to verify that it is the Passholder 2 fare you are booking by following the procedure I described above under Step 3 for booking the Passholder 2 fares on the Thalys train from Amsterdam to Paris. For the night train from Copenhagen to Amsterdam, it would say 'City Night Line Passholder 2', which would again generally be found under the 'Semi-Flexible' option of the Ticket Flexibility.

    If, by chance, you were to purchase the open ticket from Emmerich to Amsterdam in addition to your pass and take the direct overnight train from Copenhagen to Amsterdam instead of the day connection, then you can just purchase your reservations on the night train at the Passholder 1 fare. In this case, you would just indicate that you'll have a Eurail Global Pass when prompted to enter the type of pass you'll be traveling with after clicking on 'Book a Reservation for Your Pass'. As I mentioned above in reference to booking reservations on the day connection, all that matters is that the ticket costs are covered for the entire journey to be able to travel with reservations booked at the lowest possible reservation cost, which is the Passholder 1 fare on the night train from Copenhagen to Amsterdam (by purchasing the open ticket from Emmerich to Amsterdam in addition to your pass, the ticket costs would be covered for the entire journey of the train, enabling you to purchase the reservations on this train at the Passholder 1 fare). Therefore, in this case, you can just indicate you'll be traveling with a Eurail Global Pass to tell our system that the ticket costs will, in fact, be covered for the journey.

    The City Night Line night trains are unique in that they can generally be booked up to 180 days in advance of a departure. The Passholder fares on these trains can sell out quickly, so we'd just recommend to book your reservations as soon as possible.
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) March 28, 2012 16:58
    Hi John,

    Please see my above replies to your previous post for information on how to proceed. I did just notice that you were referring to travel in the direction of Paris to Copenhagen and not Copenhagen to Paris. Nonetheless, all of the same information would apply in the reverse direction regarding the Passholder 2 fares and the open ticket to cover you in the Netherlands. However, if you were to purchase the open ticket, it would be from Amsterdam to Emmerich, as opposed to Emmerich to Amsterdam. I apologize for any confusion. Please let us know if you need anything clarified, as I know it was probably unexpected that there is so much that goes into booking this type of itinerary.
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