Does the Renfe Spain Pass cover Madrid - Seville - Gibraltar - Valencia - Barcelona?

Hello,

We are planning for a trip in Spain in early June 2016, and here's the destinations we want to cover:

Madrid -> Seville -> Gibraltar -> Valencia -> Barcelona

Can you tell me if the RENFE Spain passes will cover these cities, and how many segments do I need to purchase?

Thanks,

Patrick
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) February 15, 2016 21:19
    Hi Patrick,

    The itinerary you laid out would require 6 segments on a 'Renfe Spain Pass'. A 'segment' refers to each individual train you take (i.e. '6 Segments in 1 Month'=6 different trains in 1 month).

    You would purchase the 'Renfe Spain Pass' here: https://www.raileurope.com/rail-tickets-passes/renfe-spain-pass/index.html.

    Gibraltar doesn't have a rail station. The closest rail station to Gibraltar is Algeciras. From Algeciras, you would take a bus to the town of La Línea. The bus from Algeciras to La Línea takes about 45 minutes. From La Línea, it would only be about a 5 minute walk to cross the border to Gibraltar.

    From Madrid to Seville, you would take a direct train, which would count as 1 segment.

    A connection from Seville to Algeciras takes about 4 to 4.5 hours in duration and involves changing trains once along the way in either Cordoba or Antequera. Since this connection would be comprised of 2 trains, it would require 2 segments on a 'Renfe Spain Pass'.

    A connection from Algeciras to Valencia would take about 7.5 to 9 hours in duration and involves changing trains once along the way in either Madrid or Cordoba. Since this connection would be comprised of 2 trains, it would require 2 segments on a 'Renfe Spain Pass'.

    From Valencia to Barcelona, you would take a direct train, so it would only count as 1 segment.

    The 'Renfe Spain Pass' is unique from other passes in that reservations are included in the cost of the pass itself. Even though there is no additional charge for reservations with the 'Renfe Spain Pass', it would still be required that you make reservations on each train. With that said, the process for making reservations is different with this pass. If you purchase the 'Renfe Spain Pass', you would request your reservations just by replying to an email that we send to you when the order for your pass is processed. For planning purposes, you can still just check schedules for your trips under 'Find Fares & Schedules' on the homepage of our website (www.raileurope.com). When searching schedules, you would just do a separate search for each segment.

    Madrid to Seville

    The trains from Madrid to Seville are high-speed 'AVE' and 'Alvia' trains.

    Seville to Algeciras

    Trains from Seville to Cordoba are 'AVE', 'Avant', and 'Talgo' trains. Trains from Cordoba to Algeciras are 'Altaria' trains.

    Trains from Seville to Antequera are 'Avant' trains. Trains from Antequera to Algeciras are 'Altaria' trains. For Antequera to be recognized by our website doing these searches, you would just have to type it as 'Antequera Sta.ANA'. Therefore, you would do one search for trains from 'Seville' to 'Antequera Sta.ANA' and another search for connecting trains from 'Antequera Sta.ANA' to Algeciras.

    Algeciras to Valencia

    Trains from Algeciras to Madrid are 'Altaria' trains. Trains from Madrid to Valencia are 'AVE' trains and 'Alvia' trains.

    Trains from Algeciras to Cordoba are 'Altaria' trains. Trains from Cordoba to Valencia are 'AVE' trains and 'AV City' trains.

    Valencia to Barcelona

    The trains from Valencia to Barcelona are 'EuroMed' trains.
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  • Hi Jeff,

    We are trying to minimize the numbers of segments (preferably 4 segments) that we need to travel, so instead of taking the train to Gibraltar, we will be going to Malaga, so our trip will be

    Madrid -> Seville -> Malaga -> Valencia -> Barcelona

    However, I don't seem to find any train from Malaga to Valencia, only Malaga to Barcelona. For the worse case, we will travel from Malaga to Barcelona, and then from Barcelona to Valencia. We will use the last (4th) segment to travel from Barcelona to Valencia, and buy another ticket travelling from Valencia back to Barcelona. Will this be workable? or do you have a better solution?

    Also, there are multiple train stations in both Barcelona and Valencia, and I don't seem to find the correct combinations (when I put in the stations in the 'Find Fares and Schedules' section, the site responded that it cannot find any tickets). Can you tell me which stations in Barcelona and Valencia that I should book my train tickets?

    Thanks,

    Patrick
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) February 16, 2016 21:04
    Hi Patrick,

    A connection from Malaga to Valencia would take about 5 to 5.5 hours in duration and involve changing trains once in Madrid en route, so it would also require 2 segments on a 'Renfe Spain Pass'. Therefore, the new itinerary would still consist of 5 segments; however, there is no 5 segment option of the 'Renfe Spain Pass', so you would still end up needing to purchase the 6 segment option.

    You actually would not type in the station names when searching routes on our site (aside from rare exceptions in other parts of Europe). Any station name would display when you pull up the results of a search. When you pull up the results of your searches, you will see that trains from Madrid to Valencia depart from the 'Puerta de Atocha' (station) in Madrid and arrive into the 'Joaquin Sorolla' station in Valencia, and you will see that trains from Valencia to Barcelona depart from the 'Joaquin Sorolla' station in Valencia and arrive into the 'Sants' station in Barcelona. These are the main stations in each of these cities.

    Trains from Malaga to Madrid are 'AVE' trains, and trains from Madrid to Valencia are 'AVE' and 'Alvia' trains. Trains from Valencia to Barcelona are 'EuroMed' trains.
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  • Hi Jeff,

    Thanks for your prompt reply, again ..

    Given the extra segment we need to pay, we will change the route as follows:

    Barcelona -> Valencia -> Seville -> Malaga -> Madrid

    As for the various type of trains for various cities (AVE, Alvia, etc), can you tell me if the RENFE pass will cover them.

    One last question, is RENFE pass refundable even after we make the reservation but have not used them?

    Patrick
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) February 17, 2016 15:42
    Hi Patrick,

    For this full itinerary to consist of only 4 segments on a 'Renfe Spain Pass', you would just have to be sure to take the direct train from Valencia to Seville, and there is only one.

    The 'Renfe Spain Pass' is valid on trains between different cities in Spain, including all the trains I mentioned in my above responses (AVE, Alvia, Altaria, Euromed, and AV City). The direct train from Valencia to Seville is an AVE train.

    For the refund policy, you would refer to the page for the 'Renfe Spain Pass' on our website and click 'Conditions of Use'. The page for the 'Renfe Spain Pass' is here: https://www.raileurope.com/rail-tickets-passes/renfe-spain-pass/index.html.
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  • Hi Jeff,

    I saw the following "bonus" on the Renfe Spain Pass page:

    - Free commuter travel 3 hours pre-and post-trip

    Does it mean that we can be picked up from our Hotel to board the train? If so, what is the maximum distance (from the train station) ?

    Thanks,

    Patrick
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) February 17, 2016 19:54
    Hi Patrick,

    The bonus you're referring to is not for hotel pick-up or drop-off. It applies specifically to commuter trains that operate within the metropolitan areas of some of the larger cities in Spain, which would otherwise not be covered by any rail pass.

    These commuter systems are:

    • Rodalies Barcelona - operates in the immediate area around Barcelona
    • Rodalies de Catalunya - operates in the areas in Catalonia surrounding Barcelona, Tarragona, Girona, and Figueras
    • Cercanías Zaragoza - operates in the immediate area around Zaragoza
    • Cercanías Madrid - operates in the area around Madrid
    • Cercanías Bilbao (Bilboko Aldiriak) - operates in the immediate area around Bilbao
    • Cercanías de San Sebastián (Donostiako Aldiriak) - operates in the immediate area around San Sebastián
    • Cercanías de Asturias - operates in the area around Oviedo and Gijón
    • Cercanías Sevilla - operates in the immediate area around Seville
    • Cercanías Málaga - operates in the immediate area around Málaga
    • Cercanías Cádiz - operates in the immediate area around Cádiz
    • Cercanías Valencia (Rodalia de València) - operates in the immediate area around Valencia
    • Cercanías Murica/Alicante (Rodalia de Múrcia/Alacant) - operates in the area around Murica and Alicante
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  • If we have 7 people buying the Renfe Spain pass, do we get any discount such as the Savepass?

    Thanks,

    Patrick
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  • Jeff (Official Rep) February 23, 2016 15:52
    Hi Patrick,

    I'm sorry, however, there is no such discount on the Renfe Spain Pass.
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